http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html

MAC MINI VISTA READY
John Jay Smith schrieb:
http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
But wait for 2007, when Boot Camp is no longer Beta and fully
integrated into (the next version of) Mac OS X - then it will be a most interesting way to go!
Roy
The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
I'm not worried. Microsoft benefits also. Just adding clarification to your post.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message
What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
My response, "I hope they do. And I hope they are right," was to the statement by Willaim Mosher ("What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?"
There is nothing wrong with my wishing others, including Apple, well. As for your comment, "I bet your worse nighmare is linux", you just happend on the wrong guy for that statement.
See: http://vpc.visualwin.com/ and scroll down. See how many times my name appears in the Submitted By column concerning the testing of Linux distros.
I'm sorry that you just can't understand that someone who uses Windows could have no animosity towards Mac and Linux users (or vice versa).
And yes, I own a Mac.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
Good show Colin... indeed you seem to be neutral and like all types of computer systems, because each one has to offer something different.
I too am like you... and I am constantly learning.. about everything.
AND... you remained calm and polite even though I had an insulting style (this was a deception, I had no real reason for this.. I was just fooling around), you just explained the situation as it is.
Great! You remained positive.. and that is a great asset!
thanks for that page... I might need it for reference... :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
My response, "I hope they do. And I hope they are right," was to the statement by Willaim Mosher ("What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?"
There is nothing wrong with my wishing others, including Apple, well. As for your comment, "I bet your worse nighmare is linux", you just happend on the wrong guy for that statement.
See: http://vpc.visualwin.com/ and scroll down. See how many times my name appears in the Submitted By column concerning the testing of Linux distros.
I'm sorry that you just can't understand that someone who uses Windows could have no animosity towards Mac and Linux users (or vice versa).
And yes, I own a Mac.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
Linux will always be behind both OS X and Windows.
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
I do not have any animosity towards Mac users and Linux users. It is these crazy OS evangelist types that are stupid.
William
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
My response, "I hope they do. And I hope they are right," was to the statement by Willaim Mosher ("What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?"
There is nothing wrong with my wishing others, including Apple, well. As for your comment, "I bet your worse nighmare is linux", you just happend on the wrong guy for that statement.
See: http://vpc.visualwin.com/ and scroll down. See how many times my name appears in the Submitted By column concerning the testing of Linux distros.
I'm sorry that you just can't understand that someone who uses Windows could have no animosity towards Mac and Linux users (or vice versa).
And yes, I own a Mac.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
"always" is a very long time... its an infinite amount of time... and infinite means that anything is possible. Theoretically if indeed time is infinite then all possible combinations of everything will occure in the future.
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message
Linux will always be behind both OS X and Windows.
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
nah.. I use all OS known to man....
I wonder what OS they used on the roswell ship?... hmmmmm.....
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message
I do not have any animosity towards Mac users and Linux users. It is these crazy OS evangelist types that are stupid.
William
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message My response, "I hope they do. And I hope they are right," was to the statement by Willaim Mosher ("What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?"
There is nothing wrong with my wishing others, including Apple, well. As for your comment, "I bet your worse nighmare is linux", you just happend on the wrong guy for that statement.
See: http://vpc.visualwin.com/ and scroll down. See how many times my name appears in the Submitted By column concerning the testing of Linux distros.
I'm sorry that you just can't understand that someone who uses Windows could have no animosity towards Mac and Linux users (or vice versa).
And yes, I own a Mac.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
MS DOS or CP/M, not sure which.
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
nah.. I use all OS known to man....
I wonder what OS they used on the roswell ship?... hmmmmm.....
A problem the community has to overcome before it reach the mainstream is the conflict between the use of proprietary device drivers and the restrictions in the GPL.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
"always" is a very long time... its an infinite amount of time... and infinite means that anything is possible. Theoretically if indeed time is infinite then all possible combinations of everything will occure in the future.
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message Linux will always be behind both OS X and Windows.
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
This problem will be solved "automatically" if a distro becomes sooo good that everyone will download it to try it, even if some of the hardware is not functioning. Ubuntu is trying.. but its not there yet..
We need something surprisingly good. Its going to happen, but who is going to do it? The group who does, will change the world. But I believe behind the group will be one mastermind. One person, who will take advantange of the situations and turn everything upside down.
Once a distro gets such attention, then the companies themselves will scurry to make drivers.... so they wont lose a part of the action....or they will open up the code for "vanilla" drivers.
All they want is to make money... right?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
A problem the community has to overcome before it reach the mainstream is the conflict between the use of proprietary device drivers and the restrictions in the GPL.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message "always" is a very long time... its an infinite amount of time... and infinite means that anything is possible. Theoretically if indeed time is infinite then all possible combinations of everything will occure in the future.
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message Linux will always be behind both OS X and Windows.
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
Not if it takes recompiling the kernel to install a proprietary device driver for a consumer level product. Geeks do it but consumers don't. It doesn't have to be that way but under the GPL you're not supposed to distribute a distro with any proprietary code in it.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
This problem will be solved "automatically" if a distro becomes sooo good that everyone will download it to try it, even if some of the hardware is not functioning. Ubuntu is trying.. but its not there yet..
We need something surprisingly good. Its going to happen, but who is going to do it? The group who does, will change the world. But I believe behind the group will be one mastermind. One person, who will take advantange of the situations and turn everything upside down.
Once a distro gets such attention, then the companies themselves will scurry to make drivers.... so they wont lose a part of the action....or they will open up the code for "vanilla" drivers.
All they want is to make money... right?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message A problem the community has to overcome before it reach the mainstream is the conflict between the use of proprietary device drivers and the restrictions in the GPL.
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message "always" is a very long time... its an infinite amount of time... and infinite means that anything is possible. Theoretically if indeed time is infinite then all possible combinations of everything will occure in the future.
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message Linux will always be behind both OS X and Windows.
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold...
People like you make my stomach tumble! YUK!!!!
I bet your worse nighmare is linux... you wake up with sweat on your forehead each night, terrified of the man eating penguin!
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message I hope they do. And I hope they are right. The more Intel Macs sell the more copies of Windows get sold. A healthy Apple Corp. is good for everyone.
My favorite clueless quote (from a Mac forum) was this one about Boot Camp:
"Boot Camp is gonna kill Micro$uck because now people can just run Windoze on their Macs."
"William R. Mosher" wrote in message What would you bet that Apple will advertise that the Mac is the best platform for running Windows Vista in 2007?
William
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini.
So? Dont worry, apple will be sure to make macs run vista, so they can be able to sell more machines
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message The article does not reveiw Vista running on a Mac Mini. I don't even accept the results of the Upgrade Advisor as it stands today for my own machines (the UA is itself still in beta).
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/481.html
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